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English vs Jin Dynasty: how to win the matchup

Playing English against Jin Dynasty, you win 46% of ranked 1v1 games (7,262 games). Here is how to beat Jin Dynasty, what they do and when.

Win rate by rank

  • bronze

    48.3%

    874

  • silver

    44.4%

    1,013

  • gold

    43%

    2,596

  • platinum

    45.8%

    1,429

  • diamond

    50.6%

    743

  • conqueror

    52.5%

    450

How to beat Jin Dynasty

  1. Hit before Castle with a strong Feudal army on the villagers outside
  2. Spearmen against Iron Pagoda, Archers and Crossbows against the Mohe
  3. Don't attack towers and TCs with Meng'an Mouke without siege
  4. Kill the Emissaries and take the Trade Posts
  5. Don't let him reach Imperial comfortably

Units that work against Jin Dynasty: Spearmen · Archers · Crossbowmen

When Jin Dynasty hits

  1. 5:00First Iron Pagoda is out, he will start raiding
  2. 7:00Around 7 Iron Pagodas and controlling the map
  3. 12:00Castle with the Dragon Pavilion and an Iron Pagoda timing

English strengths to lean on

  • Safe economy: farms cost half and gather faster near a Mill
  • Strong defense: Network of Castles boosts attack speed by 20% near TCs and Outposts
  • Longbows have +2 range and Palings against cavalry
  • Men-at-Arms train 40% faster, plus Vanguard Men-at-Arms from the Dark Age
  • The White Tower Keep trains any unit 75% faster

English weaknesses Jin Dynasty can punish

  • Longbows fall to Men-at-Arms, Knights and Rams
  • Slow and immobile; cavalry and Horse Archers punish it
  • If he turtles, he loses to relics, trade and scaling
  • Siege and late game are very average

Strongest Castle Age armies (simulator)

  • English: Man-at-Arms (0.72)
  • Jin Dynasty: Man-at-Arms + Veteran Spearman (0.87)

FAQ

Is English good against Jin Dynasty?
English wins 46% of 7,262 ranked games against Jin Dynasty (Jin Dynasty is favored).
How do I beat Jin Dynasty as English?
Hit before Castle with a strong Feudal army on the villagers outside Spearmen against Iron Pagoda, Archers and Crossbows against the Mohe Don't attack towers and TCs with Meng'an Mouke without siege
When does Jin Dynasty attack?
5:00 — First Iron Pagoda is out, he will start raiding · 7:00 — Around 7 Iron Pagodas and controlling the map · 12:00 — Castle with the Dragon Pavilion and an Iron Pagoda timing

Data from the open game data (aoe4world/data), patch 16.2.10884, public ranked statistics, and Layla Coach's battle simulator. Layla Coach is an independent tool, not affiliated with Microsoft, Relic Entertainment or World's Edge.

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